Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates
Comments and links to Unistats reports were made in 2015. The links still work, linking to more recent data.
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
the courses that got 0%: the worst degrees in the UK on the league tables
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
the least remembered course - a question not asked for university league tables
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
the cheapest or lowest-paid graduates in the UK who give figures
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
the worst UK degree course for getting a job
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
least helped at freelancing: a question not asked for degree course league tables
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked for degree league tables
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job?
Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
Employment by subject source: Guardian, 2011 Medicine & dentistry and veterinary science 99.6 Education 95.0 Subjects allied to medicine 94.3 Law 92.7 Agriculture & related subjects 91.6 Biological sciences 91.1 Languages 90.9 All subjects 90.4 Historical & philosophical studies 90.1 Social studies 89.8 Mathematical sciences 89.6 Combined subjects 89.6 Physical sciences 89.1 Business & administrative studies 88.9 Creative arts & design 88.2 Architecture, building, and planning 87.8 Engineering & technology 87.7 Mass communications & documentation 86.0 Computer science 84.7
Star courses: the least satisfied, most bored & lowest-paid UK graduates - the course that got 0%: the worst degree in the UK - the least satisfied graduates in the UK who give figures - the least remembered course - the lowest paid graduates in the UK who give figures - the worst UK degree course for getting a job - least helped at freelancing: a question not asked about degree courses - least access to tools and clusters after graduation: a question not asked - the most bored students in the UK can sit close to the most interested students - Management science question: who gave Mad Professor Piercy the job? - Graduates employment or further study by broad subject, 2011 and 2013
Employment by subject source may be re-hashed in a slightly different way: Forbes, 2013 Medicine & dentistry and veterinary science 90.6 Education 89.8 Subjects allied to medicine 88.1 Law 67.6 Agriculture & related subjects 71.2 Biological sciences 69.6 Languages 68.9 All subjects 90.4 Historical & philosophical studies 65.9 Social studies 75.1 Mathematical sciences 89.6 Combined subjects 67.5 Physical sciences 63.9 Business & administrative studies 80.1 Creative arts & design 77.7 Architecture, building, and planning 85.0 Engineering & technology 77.2 Mass communications & documentation 80.0 Computer science 75.7
Which university league table is most reliable?
Unistats is much the most reliable league table for comparing the courses you want by the criteria you want. The Times, Guardian, and Complete University Guide fiddle the figures, or weight the figures, against good courses at bad colleges and in favour of bad courses in good colleges. They iron-out the oddities so that their university ranking looks tidy and random changes year-to-year don't make too much difference. The result is the opposite of what a student would want. If you want to go to a terrible course at a sought-after college, you should do it deliberately and not discover your decision, as I did, while sitting in the lecture theatre.
the next post will be about simple book-keeping and account aggregators
the previous post was about post-crash economics teaching, and the manufacturing crash caused by monetary policy that killed a fifth of UK manufacturing in five years without the professor at my college noticing. We were in a manufacturing area at Keele and there were 4 million people unemployed including about a million on government schemes. I don't know why he thought we'd turned-up to spend years of our lives as students. His first job was lecturing in insurance to people seconded to a college from work, so I suppose he didn't ask himself much why students were in front of him.
Problems with unistats
I overheard part of a conversation about this in a restaurant. I went something like "all it reveals is that people are doing their job. Most of the top ranking colleges on league tables are only a tiny fraction away from each other in feedback scores". "Of course there is a long tail, with one or two colleges failing. Blackburn is one".
Moving on a stage, here are some answers even if they don't make the world better.
- Most of the work of form-filling is done for college managers rather than for the national student survey. If they have a rational reason, it is to anticipate bad scores before they reach the national survey too often, and to avoid hiring badly-scoring teachers. It would be nice if there was a way to do less form-filling for proven teachers, but that's a job for college managers to sort. They also have to sort the problem of students giving over-loyal or over-critical feedback, and of teachers dumbing-down a class rather than risk telling students that they are wrong, or thick, or lazy. I don't have a clear answer for this
- Exaggerated differences between good-enough colleges are a feature of league tables in The Times and The Guardian. It's a silly idea. The tiny difference between two colleges might not apply to particular courses at the colleges, and, if it really is a difference, is probably outweighed by things like whether the rent is lower in Leicester than Westminster. The problem is already being solved by colleges promoting Unistats' own web site, which deals with these points. It compares courses rather than colleges. And if gives some kind of score rather than a rank, so you can see that most of the colleges are about as good as each other. So, if you are a teacher and someone asks you about Unistats in a restaurant, tell them to avoid league tables and look for a nice course on Unistats' own web site, bearing in mind that most score pretty well.
- Most of the worst-scoring courses have changed or ceased because of the survey. I went on one that was something to do with social services, for people who were working in that trade. Similar to the Early Years course at Blackburn. It was labelled as a Leeds University diploma but turned-out to be Leeds College of Health, also known as the asylum there, with various consultants marking essays, and nurses answering the phone. People very much like the ones taking the course. The problem was that consultants could be unreasonable, irrational, pigheaded, and know that the embarrassed nurse would have to cover-up for them. Even while I was on the course it began to break-down; staff left without replacement. It might have closed even sooner if the first group of students had been able to warn the second.
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Afterthought
I wrote
More about this forgettable economics teacher on another post about Keele Economics teaching when there were three or four million people unemployed because of a manufacturing crisis in the 1980s. Twenty years later he still hadn't realised that you ask the students what they already know and discover the more obvious material, tell them lots of facts about what they don't already know, then pick a problem and try to solve it with real data and the right button on free software, while explaining a bit of maths to say how the software works. A lot of them mess-up embarrassingly, and get feedback, and that's OK, and students learn how to talk about evidence and disagree. Twenty years later, Fishman had become a better comedian; he liked to interrupt himself with some gleefull thought in class, and he knew his strengths as a paternal-looking character, but he never learnt his job as I saw it. He didn't even hold a tutorial.
After doing a road-to-nowhere degree in another town, I eventually found work in something called the voluntary sector for grant artists, where, once in a blue moon, under-trained and struggling staff are sent for communal "training", if they're not the temps who most needed training. By the end I used to dread it. Nobody in the room has a clue what works, but everyone pretends they already know. We are formed into small groups of people who have never met from different parts of the organisation usually doing different things, and asked to brainstorm. The first question was often something like "what is it that we do?" and someone in the small group - maybe Mona from Life Enhancement - would say "holistic". I used to dread the holistic moment. Any sensible person would be struck by how little we know what works and what for, but Mona wants to get a brownie point by saying we do everything for everyone under the sun as "holistic". Sadly or optimistically, she is part-right: people do lots of things and can do lots of things, but don't know lots of other things and fail at other things.
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